r/antiwork • u/CrossingVoid • 8d ago • 1 1
This is Elon Musk's response to riots in France.
8d ago •
Has anyone noticed the cost of living since 2020? Why aren't we more mad about that? Nobody is ever retiring at this point.
u/_narcoSomniac 8d ago
Everyone has been and IS upset about the cost of living. We are now ALSO upset that there's no hope for retirement if the goal gets moved by greedy capitalists.→ More replies (41)
They can set the age to 52, we're not retiring.
u/ME5SENGER_24 8d ago
Exactly man, I know that in my late thirties if I want to be able to retire around 65 I will need to hit the lotto. That’s it. I’m not going to work eighty hours a week to attempt to earn enough to possibly retire sooner, only to have a heart attack at 55 and not even live long enough to reach retirement age
u/romaraahallow 8d ago
Mid 30s here. My retirement plan is a lethal dose of drugs and a ditch.
u/CalmPanic402 8d ago
Look at mister rich man, able to afford drugs.
u/boofthatcraphomie 8d ago
If you stop buying avocado toast and lattes you actually can save up a lot of drug money
u/HowManyWords 8d ago edited 7d ago
I’m here to apply for the position of ditch digger.→ More replies (9)
u/BobbyFingerGuns 8d ago
I can loan you a spade for a very reasonable rate→ More replies (10)
u/HolyFuckFuckThis 8d ago
If I hadn't bought all those avocados I'd have the capital to get a spade outright, damn avocados knock me down every time I try to pull myself up by my bootstraps→ More replies (0)→ More replies (11)
u/SmilingVamp SocDem 8d ago
You're still going to have to rent the ditch because who can afford to own land these days?→ More replies (6)
u/boofthatcraphomie 8d ago
Damn ditch owners!→ More replies (2)→ More replies (18)
u/Coucoumcfly 8d ago
No need to buy it… you can just steal it… what is the drug dealer gonna do? Kill you???→ More replies (2)→ More replies (62)
u/antonia_monacelli 8d ago
We’ve legalized medically assisted suicide in Canada. That’s my retirement plan.→ More replies (6)
u/Infamous_Librarian14 8d ago
Maybe instead of retiring, the government and companies will figure out your maximum efficiency age (still generating more revenue than you cost) and send you the suicide pills when you age out. Cuts out the middleman of the “medically assisted” part and lowers entitlement costs!→ More replies (12)
u/searchingformytruth 8d ago
Jesus, don't give them ideas. I could honestly see this crossing some of their minds as a "good" idea.→ More replies (3)→ More replies (19)
u/debadoh 8d ago
At this point I'm figuring I'll go back to and stay enrolled in college until I die. I'm 51, I'll be working until then anyway. Why not also get an interesting masters? a law degree? I figure the exploited labor force can exploit the systems back. 👍→ More replies (5)
u/Opposite_of_a_Cynic 8d ago
That would be an interesting way to force the government to work around the student debt issue. Discrimination by age is illegal so they can't just make a law to reject elderly people from student aid loans. If the elderly just all start taking out huge college loans that they will never pay back something will need to be adjusted.→ More replies (8)
u/doyouknowyourname 8d ago
These conversations are how great things happen.→ More replies (23)
u/rabbidbunnyz22 8d ago
In real countries, retirement means the government or your job pays for you to live the rest of your life comfortably because you've contributed enough to society and you've earned rest→ More replies (1)
Sounds nice, too bad the USA fucks old people over.→ More replies (9)
u/nevergaveafuuuu 8d ago edited 8d ago •
I’m the first to admit that I’m not highly intelligent, but I’m smart enough to see that we are getting fucked from the front back and sides by the systems in place. The systems in place to benefit 1% of an entire nation; why in the ungodly fuck are we not raising absolute hell??? Look what France did because they raised their retirement 2 YEARS. We are so complacent that our retirement age is increasing and either no one cares or gives enough of a shit. And for most, me included, retirement is a fucking myth. I’ll be working until I’m dead, only way I can save money atm is by moving back in with family because rent is now a monopoly and being raised to ludicrous amounts. I’ll probably have to save for years just to buy a little shit shack in bum fuck no where. Best part is, they say I’m an “essential employee” and a “hero” for working (forced) through the pandemic. But in the other hand I don’t deserve a living wage, to retire, to ever feel secure in my life. This shit is out of control man. I’m not smart enough to organize a mass riot or rebellion but you can bet my chocolate starfish that when someone smart enough comes along and gets this shit going, I’ll be on the front lines. Like can someone intelligent tell me why we don’t just fuck shit up like France? I know I probably sound like a naive child but if everyone is so outraged…let’s fucking break shit and rebuild.
Edit: thank you very much for the thoughtful replies everyone. I know what I said was simplistic and hypocritical, so I appreciate you all being civil with my stupid ass. I have a lot to think about now.
u/shiftycat887 8d ago
We're not raising hell because they've criminalized protest. Once you have a criminal record it becomes much harder to find work. You'd be completely beholden to the system. It feeds itself.→ More replies (16)
u/orangechicken21 8d ago
Also you're health insurance is tied a job.→ More replies (4)
u/doyouknowyourname 8d ago edited 7d ago
This is the biggest obstacle in America in general for so many of the population. If you don't qualify for disability and you need good health care for some lifelong ailment, you either keep your ass below the poverty line or you won't even feel well enough to work. I have a genetic condition that pulls my joints apart, basically, and I've never even been able to try to make more money. My only hope is someday, it being bad enough that I do qualify for SSD and then I can maybe go back to the college that I had to drop out of twice, due to my medical issues, and then most likely still not be able to get a better job or use that degree in any way, because entry-level positions still do not generally get offered good enough medical insurance, either. Its forced poverty. Its poverty eugenics. Its eugenics through poverty... Fml.→ More replies (23)
u/frankdestroythebanks 8d ago
Education. The elite/owners/masters made it a pay to win situation in the USA years and years ago and for good reason. Average peasants/citizens only need to be smart enough to pull the levers and press the buttons, that’s it. They want all our questions to max out at: “why my button broke at work station?” Which they pretty much have now.
That’s why people aren’t pissed. Because the light box tells them it’s their neighbors fault. Or the Red. Or the Blue depending on what algorithmic tribalistic bubble Facebook/Instagram/Tick-Toc has placed you in.
The elite and the true “owners” of this country understood the dangers of a population capable of critical thinking and being able to know (in real time) that they’re getting actively fucked constantly. So we’re kind of past that now (taking it back from them). People are too dumb, fat and stupid to revolt intelligibly and make any real change before they’d get stamped out. We all live in Police states now, but we know that since George Floyd’s murder.
I remember this old bumper sticker from the 80s-90s that I’ve always loved and it’s ringing in my ears right now.
“THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED”
…and that’s why no one will ever know it’s happening until it’s already been killed. We need to unplug and organize.→ More replies (17)
u/ttboo 8d ago
The question you should be asking is "why aren't you out there protesting? Why aren't you rising hell?"
I'm not saying this to be a dick. What I'm saying is, our problems as a people are also your problems my friend. We're all fucking tired, poor, afraid for our families, our lives, our job security.
We aren't out there because the majority of us are here (on the internet) asking others to do it. Not because we can't but because deep down we all know it's fucking scary. The thought of being the next protest brutalized by overzealous police is a fear in all our minds and we don't have the time, money, or ability to take off work and protest in the streets.
Without organizing and direction these things will keep a large majority from doing anything.→ More replies (4)→ More replies (30)
u/ObsideonStar67 8d ago
You got the right energy, I respect that. To give an explanation, we need a little history. Back in the yee ole times of the late 1800's and early 1900's when unions were being formed they had a situation both similar and very different from us today. On one hand what many people forget is that many (if not most) unionization attempts at this time were not peaceful, a lot of people died, there were quite a few massacres, a lot of destroyed property, etc.
In case it wasn't obvious, unions were even more 'effectively' illegal than today; a key difference can be seen with the recent railroad strikes that were told to disband, during the union hay-day, there's a good chance they would've told uncle Sam to go fuck himself, and proceeded to take over and occupy important railroad stops, with guns, and the explicit intent that no one was operating anything until demands were met.
Why that kind of response is so different isn't because we have militarized police now (they had the Pinkerton's, and I'm pretty sure there were occasions where US troops got involved) and it's not because none of them had family's or nothing to go back to. The reason is because of how much worse their work was, and much less they got back.
A common theme for many industrial cities at this time was apartments meant for one family being shared by 2 or 3 (and keep in mind this back when people would have like 7 kids and want more) and a man was expected to work anywhere from 12-20 hr days, 7 days a week, with maybe the occasional holiday off (if upper management was feeling especially generous) and this would get you barely enough to feed the kids. It was not uncommon for these working men to borderline starve themselves to make sure their kids didn't die; well the younger, the older ones (think 7 or so) had to go get factory jobs themselves, which were not much better than the work the fathers were doing. The mothers on the other hand often took odd jobs, cleaning, seamtressing, or prostitution. And the job conditions in factories were... horrific is an understatement. People would lose body parts or die due to no safety regulations on near daily basis in most larger factories, and if someone died the expected response boiled down to push the corpse out of the way and keep working, no breaks.
Today because of their violent resistance to their exploitation, we have a standard 5-day work week, the standard 8 hr shift, the concept of a weekend and having days off, overtime, and a minimum wage, having breaks, amongst other things. When it comes down to it the reason people aren't rioting in the streets is because the ratio of exploitation to cost of resistance hasn't gotten extreme enough. Part of that is our fetishizing of peaceful protests (there's a reason we learn a lot more about MLK Jr in schools than the Black Panthers for example), but another very important part is that most people exist with just enough comfort that they don't want to risk potentially their life, or at least their access to shelter, food, and a smartphone, to do what is necessary to renegotiate the status quo.
I'm not necessarily judging people for this, it's a more or less entirely subconscious decision whether or not it's worth it, but I will judge the degree to which people bow down to the status quo while saying that it's broken. If the status quo is working against you, then you will not be able to fix it by listening to it. Strikes can't end because the government said it should. When the law tells you that you are not allowed to stand up for your rights and dignity as a person, then maybe you should reject following those laws.
Laws are all well and good, but there's limits to what they should cover, and when they cross that, we should be more willing to consider it void. This isn't even new age radical thinking, literally every protest, uprising, rebellion, and revolution in the history of civilization is based on this idea, even if no one was saying it explicitly.→ More replies (2)→ More replies (132)
u/batkave 8d ago
The people that have all the power and wealth don't care, their well at and beyond retirement age.→ More replies (17)
u/Professional_Act_161 8d ago
Yup and those are the ones who are paying the politicians to make the bills the way they want them. To where their workers will have to work forever, and never breed, but they better breed, but they don’t have to be able to afford the future workers to actually survive… Who would ever. 🤢→ More replies (2)
u/110010110000011101 8d ago
Spoiled little brat. Fuck off
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u/Current_Leather7246 8d ago
And he thinks he can do anything and get away with it because he comes from money. One time in school he was making fun of a kid's father because he committed suicide and the kids threw him down a flight of stairs put him in the hospital. Some people think they can just say anything with no repercussions. Like Mike Tyson said the internet makes people forget what it feels like to get punched in the face for running your mouth
u/DowntownPerception85 8d ago edited 8d ago
This is amazing to me. I remember when Redditors were fawning over Musk in the 2010s and the way that story went was always that he was bullied and was thrown down the stairs for "being different." The meme was that he was a nerdy genius and the stupid kids couldn't recognize that and beat him up out of concealed envy. It's a classic storytelling "and just look at me now!" narrative
That's how it goes with Musk. He spins like no other. Like how he spun holding his dying child when his ex-wife had to go into the Twitter thread and clarify it was her that did that. That's not a detail he could forget. Dude just lies with half-truth ingredients.
u/Suck_Me_Dry666 8d ago
I unironically think that Elon is the next Trump. He'll probably end up running for the Senate in a few years.→ More replies (8)→ More replies (6)
u/10010101110011011010 8d ago
Wow! I'd heard of the "bullying" but never that being thrown down the stairs was for his jeering the son of a father who'd died. (Elon's documentary was a complete whitewash! I think it was BBC's.)→ More replies (15)
u/SuperSassyPantz 8d ago
his dad wanted to go nuclear and have the kid punished, but then he realized it would not be a popular position bc the brat had it coming... he only backed off to save his own rep. whoever that kid was, i'd like to high five him and buy him a beer.→ More replies (2)
u/zeopus 8d ago
I like kids that finish the job→ More replies (2)
u/VapourPatio 8d ago
Yeah imagine if he didn't half ass that one
u/BetterWankHank 8d ago •
Billionaire life expectancy is too high. That's a legit issue.
u/Independent_Ad_7463 8d ago edited 8d ago •
Billionares exist. Thats a legit issue
u/BetterWankHank 8d ago
Much better→ More replies (5)→ More replies (39)
u/Little-Derp 8d ago
Are you proposing some kind of game where once someone hits $1 billion in wealth and assets, they've won the game, get tossed into the arena, and get eaten? Thus freeing up $1 billion dollars for the poor.
Would be good discouragement to not become a billionaire, and keep them for existing for long. Gotta be sure to be charitable to keep total wealth down.→ More replies (4)
u/FinanceOtherwise2583 8d ago
I’ve actually been writing a novel with a similar premise→ More replies (5)→ More replies (34)
u/ThelastJasel 8d ago
Rate of Billionaires being fired out of a cannon into the sun is too low. That’s a legit issue.→ More replies (6)
u/Cool-Swordfish7223 8d ago
The trash that’s not being picked up in Paris has more class than this human turd.
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u/you-guys-are-stupid 8d ago
Yep, because at least that garbage could lead to some positive change
u/Miles-tech 8d ago
Literally, i began to fucking hate elon when he said “induced demand isn’t real” which means that the more road space you give to cars, the more they drive. He just wants everyone to buy his piece of shit car just to make america and the rest of the world addicted to cars and never solve the climate crisis.→ More replies (17)
u/TitShark 8d ago •
Billionaires don’t get taxed enough. That’s a legit issue.
u/k0enf0rNL 8d ago
When billionaires like Bill Gates say they don't get taxed enough you know they dont pay shit→ More replies (52)
u/Big_Green_Piccolo 8d ago •
Billionaires should not exist
u/turtmcgirt 8d ago
That’s a legit issue→ More replies (5)
u/tehreal 8d ago
I'm doing my part.
u/slyguy183 8d ago
Every dollar I make above 999 million will go to charity I swear by my sword→ More replies (43)
u/Dick_snatcher 8d ago
Hi, my name is Charity→ More replies (18)
u/Shnibblefritz 8d ago
😃 that’s my name too!→ More replies (13)
u/jellymyfish 8d ago
Battle it out
u/TuxTues3 8d ago
Me too player 3 has entered the battle→ More replies (3)→ More replies (8)
u/Heckron 8d ago
There can be only one!→ More replies (3)
u/FFF_in_WY fuck credit bureaus 8d ago
Heeeeeere we are, born to be Kings..→ More replies (0)→ More replies (16)
u/_gadgetFreak 8d ago
Thank god, I'm not the only one.→ More replies (1)
u/jeandlion9 8d ago
Once you reach a billion dollars in wealth you prestige like call of duty, and start off with no money and see if you can be a billionaire again because they are divine, right ?
u/crisssssheywu 8d ago
but elon wouldnt have ever been level 0 bro started on rank 54→ More replies (16)
u/cmd_iii 8d ago
Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.→ More replies (13)
u/Jakesnake_42 8d ago
Born on third base, scored on a throwing error, thinks he hit a grand slam→ More replies (3)
u/Nyumei- 8d ago
Paid enough money to have a throwing error reclassified as a grand slam then got inducted into the hall of fame.→ More replies (8)→ More replies (25)
u/tearsonurcheek 8d ago
I'd be OK with a setup like Borderlands - keep your level and weapons, but start over with much tougher obstacles.
Someone mentioned a perfect solution on here yesterday. Businesses pay like 90% tax rate on all profits above a certain level. Only workaround is to put that money towards non-management wages. Give your front-line workers a permanent $5/hour raise? That lowers your profits below the threshold. Don't? Those extra taxes go to provide a safety net to those same employees.→ More replies (19)
u/SilverSageVII 8d ago
Problem is that “reinvesting” these days is always in the stockholders favor and rarely in the employees favor. Imagine if we got rid of the onus to shareholders and focused on the STAKEHOLDERS!? The people who run the company and make it work. We used to, but Reagan had to screw that up too.→ More replies (6)
u/Last_Ant_525 8d ago
Stock buybacks taxed at 90% also. Solves that problem. Just need someone other than the bought-off politicians we have to implement it.→ More replies (9)
u/ctdca 8d ago
Buybacks were straight up illegal until 1982. Let’s just go back to that.→ More replies (1)
u/DrBoomsNephew 8d ago
As a nutritionist, I have to constantly remind people that an essential cornerstone of a balanced diet is eating the rich.→ More replies (7)
u/GoombaTrooper 8d ago
Eat the rich!
u/TheKhaziOfKalibar 8d ago
The French people have a history of getting a head in these kind of situations, so you’re not outside the realms of possibility!→ More replies (10)→ More replies (2)
u/earlycuyler93 8d ago
Feed the poor→ More replies (3)
u/SilverSageVII 8d ago
Every billionaire is a policy failure→ More replies (8)
u/AwTekker 8d ago
Literally no human being in history has "earned" a billion dollars. The only way to make that kind of money is exploitation of others' labor.→ More replies (83)→ More replies (207)
u/musiquededemain 8d ago
Billionaires need us but we don't need them.→ More replies (11)→ More replies (156)
u/FILTER_OUT_T_D 8d ago
Seriously. Every dollar someone “earns” after a million per year should be taxed at 95%. It should be literally impossible for anyone to be a billionaire.
u/Bkoss91 8d ago
I think that's how it used to be right? Prior to the Regan administration? Seems like that man did a lot of harm that were paying for now.
u/SeriousJack 8d ago
Yep. First paragraph :
The first tax cut (The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981) among other things, cut the highest Personal Income Tax rate from 70% to 50% and the lowest from 14% to 11% and decreased the highest Capital Gains Tax rate from 28% to 20%→ More replies (3)
u/lizzyinthehizzy 8d ago
Between that and Nancy's "war on drugs" filling prisons with brown bodies and breaking up families, I'd say say they did pretty well for their rich buddies.→ More replies (19)
u/musiquededemain 8d ago
Conservatives LOVE Reagan. Prior to Trump, they viewed him as a deity. He did a lot of harm to this country and we are *definitely* paying for it now.→ More replies (51)→ More replies (13)
u/popnfrresh 8d ago
Reagan did more damage to this country for the longest period of time than any other president on record.→ More replies (5)
u/gif_smuggler 8d ago
Until trump the Reagan administration was the most criminal administration ever.→ More replies (8)
u/Remarkable_Night2373 8d ago
Fix tax loopholes. These guys have wealth but don't have to have income. Income tax is for income. The business generally owns everything.→ More replies (3)
u/anthro28 8d ago
He's a billionaire because of assets, not "earned" money. The tax code doesn't treat appreciated asset valuation as "income" until sold.
Soooo they take out loans using the higher valued assets as collateral. Loans are also not income.→ More replies (8)
u/destronger 8d ago
set upfigured out the nearly infinite money hack.→ More replies (8)
u/Kortallis 8d ago
BUt ThEn THeY WoNT InVEsT.→ More replies (4)
u/ialf 8d ago
Your idea makes me so mad because I don't make 1 million a year...
u/FILTER_OUT_T_D 8d ago
But one day I could be rich and then people like me better watch out!→ More replies (2)
u/TtotheC81 8d ago
The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing people they could join the feast, and not just make do with the scraps that fall from the table.→ More replies (3)
u/KeyanReid 8d ago edited 8d ago
Bring back the 90% corporate tax rate too.
We tried not doing these sensible things and now we have trust fund douche bags telling us we aren’t good enough slaves while half of America is kneeling at their feet and rage masturbating over M&M foot fetishes, driven by a righteous drive to punish their countrymen, all for mortal sin of daring to stand up for ourselves and each other.
I’m gonna go ahead and say their way doesn’t work. It is fundamentally incompatible with human prosperity.→ More replies (4)
u/CmdNewJ 8d ago
Didn't we use to tax at 90% anything over 1 mil? Let really make America great and do this again.→ More replies (3)
u/Possiblyabitoff 8d ago
It was 91% from 1954-1963. IIRC, that was a period of tremendous economic growth as well.
u/DefiantDragon 8d ago
It was 91% from 1954-1963. IIRC, that was a period of tremendous economic growth as well.
Yes, because when people of modest means have money they spend it instead of hoard it.→ More replies (1)
u/Possiblyabitoff 8d ago
Imagine that. It’s almost like that whole trickle down thing is absolute bullshit→ More replies (3)
u/Snippychicken22 (edit this) 8d ago
Fun fact there used to be a maximum wage 25k(400k adjusted for inflation) anything above that was taxed 95%→ More replies (11)→ More replies (82)
u/mercut1o 8d ago
Once you can afford to buy/sell/trade an average member of society's entire lifetime earnings and it holdd no risk to your lifestyle to completely lose that investment you have too much money. At the point where you see the lifetime earnings of a factory worker or teacher as play money, to be used for whims, that's when you should have that money taken away. It mocks the contribution of real members of the community to have a lone individual free from risk assessment, outside of the community's shared financial risk, but taking advantage of the positive aspects of the community. Billionaires artificially inflate prices by doing things like buying way beyond their needs in the real estate market, greedily inflating prices for square footage and good locations because that condo is the billionaire's 12th home (this one for their cats). You want a teacher's money to compete with that money? The billionaire will buy the entire block and rent to the teacher but the teacher can't raise capital beyond a finite point in order to actually afford an asset. Billionaires can operate at margins the rest of us can't take. They can take losses up front on a massive scale in order to create localized monopolies, they can buy up utilities, they can start businesses to put your place of work out of business and they can do all these things fully insulated from personal risk. They can do them for fun, or spite, or as an accident. As if buying and selling whole livelihoods is a game with no consequences. Tax the rich now. This protected class of billionaires toying with society is cancerous.
u/ThewanderingMrF 8d ago •
The tendency of rich people to act like their wealth makes them experts in issues of political economy has to be one of the most annoying of our time.
Inheriting a bunch of money and being a "disruptor" doesn't mean you know shit about fuck. Can barely run Twitter and thinks he should run the world
u/pnutz616 8d ago •
Like, he literally thinks that he’s earned his fortune despite knowing hes a little trust fund kid who inherited more than most people will make working for their entire lives. Wealth is a hell of a drug and these billionaires are high AF.
u/Seraphim333 8d ago
They’ve done studies where they get people to play monopoly with randomly assigned starting cash. Unsurprisingly, the people who were randomly given more starting cash than others usually end up with the most money and winning the game. But when asked “do you think you just got lucky or do you have real skill at this game?” A large majority of the participants that got the extra money just assumed they were better at the game even though they know they had an unfair advantage given to them.
It’s quite literally people born on third base think that they hit a triple.
u/northatlanticdivide 8d ago
Reminds me of this comic regarding people mistaking opportunity and luck for skill.→ More replies (3)→ More replies (19)
u/Boredy0 8d ago
Did they have a control where they asked winners of fair games if it was luck or skill?
Because people tend to answer that they are extremely skilled at a game even if they are objectively dogshit at it.
Source: Look up any competitive League of Legends discussion.→ More replies (5)
u/RCIX 8d ago
To that point, people also have a wildly distorted view of skill in that game. You can be better than 99% of players and you’ll get told you’re dogshit because you’re not better than 99.9999% of players.→ More replies (5)
u/gpassi 8d ago
90% of league of legends players are worse than 90% of league of legends players→ More replies (4)
u/Quadrophiniac 8d ago
Yeah, and did you see him shitting on that disabled twitter employee for being "independently wealthy" when he actually worked and started his own succesful business from the ground up.
Edit: the employees name was Haraldur Thorliefsson
u/Ancient-PeEeEeP 8d ago
I saw a video explaining the circuit city grift and that bc Twitter doesn't have a functioning HR to even know who worked for them we all just put a higher up position of working for Twitter on our resumes and we all back each other up. Something like regional manager of marketing idk, something just made up→ More replies (4)
u/Specific_Culture_591 8d ago
Not just any employee either… an employee that was only an employee because he didn’t take a full buyout of his company when Twitter bought instead wanted to be an employee so he could pay additional taxes in his country AND he didn’t just not do the job like he could have, he actually contributed a lot to Twitter.
u/Quadrophiniac 8d ago
Yeah, not only is the dude an awesome businessman, but hes also a national hero in Iceland, for reasons you mentioned. Elon couldnt have picked a worse dude to pick a fight with→ More replies (1)
u/fire_soul_love 8d ago
And lied about his degrees and illegally immigrated.→ More replies (9)
u/pnutz616 8d ago
Wait he illegally came here? Can we deport him?
u/Nopants_Jedi 8d ago
No, he's rich. Laws don't apply to his kind→ More replies (13)
u/SeVenMadRaBBits 8d ago
Why does talking about the rich always make me hungry?→ More replies (4)
u/dparks71 8d ago
I asked my wife what she thought about making being a billionaire a crime punishable with a one-way ticket to space, launched once a week in decreasing order of net worth.
Like they can have internet and access to their bank accounts on the journey and everything. They just can't hang out on earth anymore. They're clearly at another level beyond us peons, we should allow them to ascend.
u/Suspicious-mole-hair 8d ago
I had a similar idea, but it's just once you reach 1bn your income is taxed at 100%.
If you're really an unstoppable titan of industry then keep on going and watch the world improve for the betterment of everybody thanks to your immense ability. If you're just greedy to the point of being broken, it'll be the equivalent of a barman cutting you off and ordering you a taxi. You've got enough.→ More replies (10)
u/whtevn 8d ago
If only billionaires could be conned into competing for who paid the most in taxes, instead of who has the longest train on the railroad or who owns the best sportsball teams→ More replies (1)
u/kit_mitts 8d ago
who has the longest train on the railroad
If it weren't for billionaires maybe we could actually have good railroads→ More replies (0)→ More replies (15)
u/__lanA 8d ago
I'm pretty sure I've seen movies/played video games where the Uber wealthy live on a paradise floating city in the heavens and all us peons live in the slums down on earth....so my vote is let's not do this→ More replies (9)→ More replies (13)
u/TheSquishiestMitten 8d ago
I'm generally not a big fan of deporting people, but I'm on board with this one.→ More replies (7)
u/FiggleDee 8d ago
"Born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run."→ More replies (14)
u/sstevo14 8d ago
He's the poster boy for dunning-kruger
u/ImBoredToo 8d ago
The year is 45,000 BCE
You are immortal
You decide to save $10,000 a day
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u/Magical_Badboy 8d ago
More than most??? Dude that’s a VAST understatement.→ More replies (5)
u/CascadiyaBA 8d ago
This guy has fucked up so many times in his life, he just had his slave owner daddy who saved his ass again and again. Anyone without rich parents would have been broke long ago.
He's a liar, he lied about his grades, his migration status, his background (pretending to be 'self-made' when daddy had lots of money that gave him many opportunities). He only gets away with it because he stole ideas of others with daddy's money and turned them into more money.
Remember that one guy in high-school everyone knew? The one that was an ass but told everyone he's gonna be president one day, just "wait and see" and years later you see he ended up as an grumpy lonely adult working at Mcdonalds, but still shitting on 'the poor and lazy ones' because he'll be rich one day? Yeah that would have been Elon.
u/Fuzzyfoot12345 8d ago
reminds me of that meme from about a month ago on reddit, that life is like a game of darts.
Rich kids get multiple dart throws, often missing wildly but eventually 1 lands close to centre or a bullseye.
Middle class kids get 1 chance to land a bullseye, most fail but on a rare occasion one lands a dart near the bullseye, if they miss the first chance, and choose to gamble and ask for a 2nd dart and fail, they are crushed with debt.
Poor kids get zero dart throws, if they work incredibly hard, after a few decades they MIGHT get a chance to throw a dart, and if it fails they are crushed with debt.
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u/Gamedoom 8d ago
Not just his daddies money but his connections and friends too. He's fallen upwards his entire life because there's a whole network of rich white men ready to hand him an office and a wad of cash every time he trips over himself.
u/jamhov 8d ago
That's not unique to our time. The rich have always acted like that.→ More replies (16)
u/VoDoka 8d ago
Marx unironically wrote about how we mistake the ownership of money for qualities of the individual who has it: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/power.htm→ More replies (2)
u/CrealityReality 8d ago
This legitimately made me laugh out loud. Shit about fuck. Love it→ More replies (5)
u/illsqueezeya 8d ago
A Ruth Langmore saying if you've watched Ozark→ More replies (5)
u/InvaderCrux 8d ago
Why else do you think all his products fall apart like ill-fit Lego? He's a corporate plastic skinbag with no idea how any of the engineering behind his products works, and rushes his products into the market before they can even be fully designed for functionality.→ More replies (22)
u/Sweet-Emu6376 8d ago
He's an expert on how to ensure he stays a billionaire.
Higher retirement age means less tax money spent on things like SS and elder care. Just work until you die!
He also tweeted about the falling birth rate when Roe was overturned. You need a constant supply of poor desperate people to work in your shitty factories!
While I love to shit on Elon about all the shit he's lied about or doesn't know, he knows exactly what he's doing here supporting these stances.
Elon doesn't care about the world, innovation, tech, or you and me. He, like every other billionaire, only cares about his money and making sure he's so filthy rich he can do whatever he wants, when he wants.→ More replies (8)
u/theunixman 8d ago
He can barely run his own life, and his companies are all propped up by the finance industry because he's popular enough to get that tasty populist valuation pump so that the dump will be spread out over us instead of them.→ More replies (1)
u/SaintHuck 8d ago edited 8d ago
Equipping Emeralds in your pockets provides a +50 buff to political economy.
Granted, he cheated, and relied on emerald miners to boost his stats.
u/phillbert0 8d ago
The cognitive dissonance of when they start out on 3rd base is telling
u/bradlees 8d ago
Weird stance since his buddy Bezos is all but retired. But yeah, billionaire’s retirement is whenever and without worry. Everyone else…. FUCK YOU→ More replies (1)→ More replies (294)
u/FireFox181 8d ago
Couldn't agree more, Twitter is a dying platform. I committed account suicide the day after Napo-elon Muskarat took over, just so I could cut myself off from the poison. I wish not to watch the train wreck, I would be standing there gawking at the destruction.→ More replies (12)
u/BiIlBoquet 8d ago
Elon doesn't know shit about work, doesn't know shit about France, and should go fuck himself.
u/hydroxypcp Anarcho-Communist 8d ago
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u/povlov0987 8d ago
He is a pure piece of shit
u/thehigheststrange 8d ago
says the person who doesn't do any actual work already
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u/Current_Leather7246 8d ago
Exactly the guy that claims he works 80 to 100 hours a week but counts posting online and getting driven around in a car as work. What a weenie
u/here-i-am-now 8d ago
Wow, I didn’t know that I too work 80+ hours per week
u/siccoblue 8d ago
He probably just counts being awake and able to respond as work at this point because he's never worked a day in his life→ More replies (1)→ More replies (10)
u/slam99967 8d ago
I literally got into an argument with a guy over that. I was like the math literally does not work for how much Elon claims he’s working. Like there would have to been more than 24 hours in a day for Elon to actually being doing what he says he’s doing.→ More replies (6)
u/c-honda 8d ago
In his eyes tweeting is work. And like most CEO’s, rubbing elbows with other rich pricks counts as work. The extent of his actual job which could be perceived as “work” would be talking on the phone or sending emails telling his managers what to do.
u/TheSerialHobbyist 8d ago
Exactly. Once you get to a certain executive level, you get to count everything as work.
Text another exec about your tee time? That's "work."
Watch a documentary? That's "work."
Grab a few beers with your pals? That's networking and is "work."
It's easy to work literally every waking hour of the day when you get to decide that everything you do is work. Us regular folks, however, only get paid when we're actually doing our jobs.
u/SweeneyisMad 8d ago
As French, I fucking don't care about what Elon Musk thinks or says.
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u/North-Philosopher-41 8d ago
He is saying this because it is worrying to see for all the rich people what unity can do. France is awesome for being able to unite against hierarchy
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u/SubterrelProspector 7d ago
They're scared it might happen here in the States. We're almost desperate enough. Just needs another big push essentially.→ More replies (1)
u/jeffinRTP 8d ago
Always looking out for the little people. That's why they love him. /S
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u/beefchuckles42069 8d ago •
I am so grateful I never bought that Tesla. I will never ever in a million years buy anything he makes. This guy is a world class piece of shit.
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u/kayak_enjoyer 8d ago
Tesla's got real problems now that Chevy, Nissan, Ford, and the rest are selling EVs.→ More replies (72)
u/potenpterodactyl 8d ago
He’s so anti union and anti labor that it’s ironic his build quality is much worse than anything UAW workers ever rolled out.
u/internetcommunist 8d ago
Hmmm I wonder if the two are perhaps related? Perhaps better compensation and working conditions leads to increased employee productiveness and satisfaction? Hmmm who knows…→ More replies (2)→ More replies (1)
u/Olioliooo 8d ago
The opposite of irony
u/someguywith5phones 8d ago
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u/sockswithtoesinthem 8d ago
I especially like how this comment is easily readable and not at all censored.
You’re not allowed to discuss solutions to the problem. Only whine about how powerless you are. Remember that.→ More replies (2)
u/ActionScripter9109 "essential" odd way to say "expendable" 8d ago
When you see the [ Removed by Reddit ] on a billionaire post, you know it was something incredibly based.→ More replies (3)
u/hydroxypcp Anarcho-Communist 8d ago
you can literally just say "[redacted]" and everyone will know what's being said
u/fuckinbacher 8d ago
Remember kids it’s against the rules to glorify violence against your oppressors who use violence on you because their violence is some how better than your violence for reasons.
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u/Dry-Coyote540 8d ago
Then let's drive down to Florida and punch Ron Desantis (another punchable face) and I'll knee him too.
u/WearDifficult9776 8d ago
We’re not human beings to them. We’re livestock. We deserve no consideration in their minds. We’re milk cows who should be used until we can no longer produce. If they could slaughter us and sell the meat but sadly (to them) they can’t do that yet.
To them the benefit of automation belongs ONLY to the owner of the automation. Their end game is that all is automated, they get all the money, and spend it amongst themselves. Everyone else lives in shack towns
u/BeKind_BeTheChange 8d ago •
Retirement age should be around 51. Nobody should have to work for more than 30 years in order to be able to enjoy the rest of their life. There are plenty of resources to support us all, the issue is resource allocation, not resource scarcity.
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u/aimlessly-astray 8d ago
It's ridiculous we're expected to work ourselves to death when we're young, and as a "reward," when we're physically spent, we spend the last 20-40 years sitting in a recliner.→ More replies (4)
u/Michael_Thompson_900 8d ago
The other day I had to visualise what $1 billion actually looks like. It’s 1,000 lots of $1 million. I think, if I was living lavishly, I could burn through $3 million a year. It would take me 33 years of spending $3 million a year to burn through a billion. Elon is currently worth $185 billion. At this point he’s just like Smaug and hoarding wealth whilst millions struggle. I know I’m preaching to the choir, but how could anyone trust / idolise what he says.
Like if your kid never ate his school lunch and just hoarded all the food he could, you’d get that kid help! Then imagine that kid is hoarding food he can’t eat whilst kids in the cafeteria go hungry. That’s what Elon is. A stretched leathery turd with an unhealthy obsession with money.
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u/Kham117 8d ago
It’s actually harder; 3 million a year would take you 333.33 years to reach a billion (33 years only gets you 99 million)→ More replies (6)
u/snakerjake 8d ago
Maybe they meant 30 million a year.
I could spend 30 million a year. I'd be practically setting the world on fire in terms of my resource waste to do so but I could do it. Things like buying a jet to throw away after a year or two and using it to commute cross country for mcdonalds. but its doable.→ More replies (1)
u/brownredgreen 8d ago
30M a year is less than 3M a month
3M a month is, ballpark, 100,000 a day
That's, uh, a pretty good per diem.
u/Jackamalio626 Refuses to be a wage slave 8d ago
Wow, the greedy capitalist exploiter wants to keep his wage slaves vulnerable for longer.
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u/Veritas-Veritas 8d ago
Bold words from someone who should be aware that rich people are edible.
u/OmegaLiar 8d ago
Elon musk has been alive waaaay too long. That’s a legit issue!
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u/pusnbootz 8d ago
retirement should be at 50
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u/kytheon 8d ago
I’m sad when grandparents are forced to have a fulltime job. Time to relax.→ More replies (12)
u/Reddit_is_dumbest 8d ago
Never ever,and I mean never, do I need to hear what a billionaire thinks about someone else’s retirement age
u/skellington_key 8d ago
We should get to retire at 50 at the latest. I want to enjoy my retirement by living more than a few years after. I’m 39 and my body is already broken from work and I still have 25 more years… fuck
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u/AlarmedClub1204 8d ago
65 is demonstrably insane as the retirement age. You cannot withdraw from your 401k without penalty or receive social security until 62.5, you can't take advantage of medicare until you're 65, and once you retire you have 10 good years left if you're lucky.
I can't imagine what being old is like because I'm only 23, but after 50 it gets grim by all accounts. You can take care of yourself as well as possible but you cannot stave off the effects of aging forever. Every cell in your body "knows" when it's time to pass on, which is why keeping ahead of your physical age is so difficult.
In the latter half of your life, your chances of contracting cancer and heart disease rise by the decade until you're so old that a rhinovirus could kill you. You feel slow because you are slow and getting slower. Your neurons start dying en masse, and it takes considerable effort to do what a 20 year old could do instantly without any effort.
Every day I am horrified by the crushing reality that by the time I finally have enough money to live the life I want to live I will be past my prime. I could die in an automobile accident before then. All it would take is one drunken driver flattening me driver's side first and I will never know what not having to worry about money feels like.
We all know the system is rigged but we also know that people are not going to "rise up" within our lifetimes. Our best hope is that we can make enough to live on as long as medical bills don't ruin us in retirement. Even that is a pipe dream now that the rich have made it unilaterally impossible to effectively protest.
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u/Weirdlittleworm 8d ago
B..but he’s a man of the people! He is le epic and based! So what if he’s a billionaire? I can be a billionaire just like him someday! I just have to keep working at my Walmart cashiering job for the next 192 years, 85 hours per week and have no expenses.
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u/AshamedDeparture 8d ago
Asshole gonna asshole.
u/kayak_enjoyer 8d ago
Musk can't go three straight minutes without announcing that he's a douchebag.
u/Tex-Rob 8d ago
How egotistical do you have to be to think it's OK and appropriate for ONE human to meddle in the lives of millions of people on the opposite side of the planet? For real? Elon is garbage.
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u/Southern_Chef420 8d ago
Elon musk is a slave owning fat dork
u/Bhalzard 8d ago
The pay is too low. That's the legit issue.
u/Less-Dragonfruit-294 8d ago
Fuck this moron.
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u/RevolutionaryTell668 8d ago
Billionaires want us all working until we die!